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« on: March 09, 2006, 12:00:12 PM »

Desktop Windows Manager

The next version of Windows brings an end to 20 years of 2D desktop rendering. Windows Aero is actually just a theme, or skin type, used by the Desktop Windows Manager, a new graphical system built into Windows Presentation Foundation. While Windows Vista is Microsoft's DirectX 10 vehicle, the 3D Desktop Windows Manager only requires DirectX 9.0. The switch to 3D rendering means that Windows will now finally have a use for that fancy $400 graphics card on the desktop.

The use of a 3D accelerator gives Windows Vista much more flexibility in creating imaginative interface displays on the desktop, such as animated wallpaper. In past Windows versions, the desktop could only display graphics in 2D. The youngsters may not believe this, but the very first 3D graphics cards were actually add-on cards that worked in conjunction with an existing 2D graphics card already in the system. The Windows Presentation Foundation uses DirectX to take advantage of your 3D graphics hardware to convert the 2D windows surfaces into textures that can be rendered onto the desktop.



Instead of displaying plain old windows, the new 3D user interface elements will be able to scale, rotate, and be manipulated with ease. The new desktop paves the way for new navigation features, like Flip3D and an improved Alt-Tab application-switching interface. Flip3D lets you navigate through all your application windows by pulling your open windows together and arranging them into a 3D rolodex format that you can cycle through and select by using your mouse or arrow keys.



The new Alt-Tab interface presents thumbnail shots of the contents of each window, as opposed to the Alt-Tab interface found in Windows XP, which only provides an icon of the program. As is the nature of beta software, nothing is set in stone; the look and functionality might change considerably.

Windows Aero
Aero is Microsoft's new default 3D desktop theme. Gone are the bright blues and smooth color gradients of Windows XP. The new transparent Aero theme features subdued colors and unobtrusive rounded corners ready for the Web 2.0 era. Transparencies and soft fade effects give Aero a polished look. The borders of each window blur objects lying under them, leaving the window you are working on in focus while giving you a hint of what lies beneath. It's all very pretty.



Mouse over a navigation button, and the button will glow and spill light onto neighboring windows or onto the background. New windows slowly materialize into existence, and, when minimized, they fade and shrink downward.

To accommodate for no-frills power users, Microsoft will include a classic Windows theme that closely resembles desktop elements found in Windows 2000. However, in our hands-on testing with Beta 1 we noticed that the austere theme doesn't feel as snappy as the Aero interface, which is strange considering that the Aero theme has a lot more visual complexity. We'll chalk that up to the beta status of the product--performance tweaks will likely wait until the end.

Graphics Card Requirements
Windows Vista doesn't have official minimum system requirements yet, but Microsoft has recommended at least 512MB of memory, a "modern" Intel or AMD processor, and a DirectX 9.0 graphics card for the current Windows Vista Beta 1. You'll need to have the right hardware to get the Windows Vista experience you see in all the pretty screenshots. Yes, your system can run Vista if you don't have a DirectX 9.0 card, but you won't be able to enjoy the full Aero desktop effect because the system will default back to 2D mode.

You can't have just any DX9-compatible card either. According to Andrew Dodd, product manager for ATI's software group, the quality of the graphics card can impact the performance of the Aero desktop because it's now just like any other 3D application. Using a new Windows Vista driver from ATI, we tested a handful of ATI DX9 video cards on Windows Vista to see if we could get the system to lag on the desktop. Our 256MB Radeon X1900 XTX and Radeon X850PE cards performed flawlessly when we dragged a window over 10 open Internet Explorer windows. Our 128MB Radeon X300 SE showed some slight hitching when we got up over seven windows, but we had to frantically whip around the mouse to make it noticeable--we wouldn't have seen any signs of strain with normal usage. Current discrete DirectX 9.0 video cards should be able to handle Aero without a problem.

If you're thinking about upgrading your video card for Windows Vista, consider waiting a little while for ATI and Nvidia to release their DirectX 10 graphics cards. DirectX 9.0 cards will work great on the desktop and in legacy DX9 games, but you'll need DirectX 10 hardware for advanced Windows Vista games.
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 06:06:10 PM »

Hmm.. kinda reserved about this.

I go for the "whatever works" concept, so as long as it functions, it doesnt have to look fancy.

Anyway, how are you gonna use a window when it is panned just like the way in your above screenshot? You'll have difficulties in reading the words in it. :roll:
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 08:17:04 PM »

I don't want to buy a monster machine for an OS, and then has the OS used all system resources and its applications/games run like shit.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2006, 09:43:35 AM »

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I don't want to buy a monster machine for an OS, and then has the OS used all system resources and its applications/games run like shit.

Im pretty sure MS already put that into thinking
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2006, 10:52:22 AM »

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I don't want to buy a monster machine for an OS, and then has the OS used all system resources and its applications/games run like shit.

Im pretty sure MS already put that into thinking
Still, from what they have been announcing, this OS is too bloated.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2006, 09:19:19 PM »

agreed. and i've heard MS said the same thing for XP and their previous ver. of os. but still, you need more 'know-what' and 'know -how' to counter system resources probs....
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2006, 12:34:22 AM »

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agreed. and i've heard MS said the same thing for XP and their previous ver. of os. but still, you need more 'know-what' and 'know -how' to counter system resources probs....

All I can see so far is many unnecessary things being added over XP, not enough as a reason for me to get it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2006, 10:41:22 AM »

winxp or win98SE? i'll go for 98SE. less trouble.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2006, 03:09:23 PM »

already got winxp, love win98 more on my old pc, but hate it on my skools pcs (outdated win98 and superbly slow)

wanna make ur xp look like vista, get this, is kinda eye-candy
http://www.crystalxp.net/galerie/en.id.130.htm
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2006, 10:53:57 AM »

unable to connect... nvm...
i still remember using styleXP to mod my winXP. quite nice...

the 3d interface in vista... i've seen it somewher before... a winXP mod i think...
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2006, 02:29:22 PM »

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winxp or win98SE? i'll go for 98SE. less trouble.
98SE, less troubles than XP?  :shock:
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2006, 03:33:14 PM »

well, if you took features into the equation, xp is slightly better. but if you consider security, i think 98 is better, at least during its era. XP requires a LOT of patches to work safely. and even when one patch is up, there are still holes in the security. and look at the size.... in terms of patches, 98 has less, and less in size. for someone who hooked up on 56k line, it is an agony to wait.

im using xp now. some of my software are made for xp so i HAD to use xp. i just wish they could make xp as good as 98SE.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2006, 08:25:20 PM »

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well, if you took features into the equation, xp is slightly better. but if you consider security, i think 98 is better, at least during its era. XP requires a LOT of patches to work safely. and even when one patch is up, there are still holes in the security. and look at the size.... in terms of patches, 98 has less, and less in size. for someone who hooked up on 56k line, it is an agony to wait.

im using xp now. some of my software are made for xp so i HAD to use xp. i just wish they could make xp as good as 98SE.
I could careless about the security issues, I have my firewall, antvirus and antispyware stuff(the same things I had to use when I was using 98se) and eventhough haven't been doing windows updates since sp2, I haven't encouter any problem with its security. Yes, 98 has less, at its era simply because there were also less exploiters and hackers, 98 also had smaller patches, but even at its era, they are considered huge because most users were using 56k, its sp1 is over 100mb if I remember correctly.

What really made XP a whole lot better is not the new features, but  the stability it brought. The handling of processes and memory is way better in the NT kernel that XP used, it also has better memory protection, making it almost noncrashable if you have the correct drivers and your hardware setup in bios correctly. I remember the days where my computer crashes every once a while, and I had to do reformarting at least once every month.

I am using XP and I absolutely love it, my only complain is it couldn't run some of my older games but that still won't make me touch 98 ever again.

Also, to stay on topic, all these known benefits that WinXP brought over 98se are still unseen in upgrading XP to Vista, hence there isn't really a reason for me to buy Vista when it comes out.
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2006, 12:40:53 PM »

Another bloated Windows.

I rather learn on how to use Unbuntu. It is so lean that it is difficult to comprehend why Windows can't be as efficient.
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