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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2006, 08:43:01 PM » |
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the movie was basically OK. btw, she is a prostitute--but i'd call her the 'high class' type ... yeah sorry for not being sensible here ... i'd think that the book is better (though haven't really read it yet). btw, here's something interesting though it's been a while: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TSWaKWiAhY&search=memoirs%20of%20a%20geishait's a 'different type of trailer'--i guess something you can expect from youtube lol ... neway it was so damn hilarious! |
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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2006, 11:42:02 PM » |
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But Geishas aren't really prostitutes. Outsiders just misunderstand.
Each Geishas have their own way to entertain their clients which includes having sex with them, but that does not make them a hooker...
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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2006, 08:31:56 AM » |
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yes, vulpine. but no matter how i see it... well, when you so-called 'entertain' people with your body and receive benefits in return (money or non-monetary benefits for example, a favour) you are basically soliciting and that makes the person a prostitute...
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« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2006, 02:44:35 PM » |
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Yeah, that's why i said outsiders often misunderstand. They're NOT prostitutes no matter what you think... it's just up to the clients what to do with the Geisha.
it's based on what i've read.
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« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2006, 09:00:38 PM » |
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that is... um, well, "what clients would like to do with them" but aren't the clients normally men---> who wants to sleep with them? a female lady wouldn't walk in and request for a geisha to chat with, would they? ... perhaps reading the book will give you another picture of what 'geisha' is but generally, a friend of mine who also read the book agreed with me ^^;; ... neway it really doesn't matter because like you mentioned, difference in perceptions  |
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« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2006, 11:41:23 PM » |
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Geisha means 'artist' not prostitue by the way. I was also found out somewhere that the novel kinda changed a bit of Geisha concept. Which kinda makes the Geisha the author interviewed angry. it's not "difference in perceptions", really. It's not able to accept the truth. Personally, i think Geishas are being prostitutes if they sleep with a client. But according to the real definition, they are NOT prostitutes no matter what you think  |
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« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2006, 11:50:05 PM » |
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oh of course, they cant be too obvious, can they? lol
whatever a word means, it might just be a 'mask' of another thing, seriously. words can mean anything most of the time. even 'artist' ... there's a lot of different 'artists' ^^ ...
for example, when you heard someone say: I run a massage parlour ... and somehow you'll be like, Wow, wht type of massage parlour? it can be something legal or the other end of it but gawd knows...
sorry? novel concept is changed... made the author angry? isn't the author of the novel the same person??? or do you mean the director instead? the author is angry with the director? in that case, the author can sue them in any way if there's enough proof/ evidence to justify the matter. well, dun wanna talk abt legal stuffs coz its too troublesome @@ had enough of law in my head...
vulpine, don't take things personally and no hard feelings but lol who cannot accept the truth here!? like i mentioned again and again. it doesn't matter what 'name' or whtever they are called. As long as you solicit your body out for something--money, non-money etc, that person IS prostituting. for example, when they sell their body to entertain guests then they are prostituting but they are not prostitutes? WoW... :shock: and one shocking thing was, that happen quite often and had somehow became their 'occupation', no?
they don't survive on money by sleeping with clients? then what do they do? its rather obvious in a way but most people can't accept it when its said directly in such a way. perhaps long long long time ago when 'geisha' was first introduced into Japan, they were entertainers but somehow, from what people read and watch, that isn't what it is and i m simply impliying what i c and understand from the movie... plus my fren's knowledge of the book ...
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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2006, 12:24:09 AM » |
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Okay i'm not taking things personally. I'm just stating facts ok? Whatever you wanna think it's up to you, right or wrong.
And i DID not say that the author got angry. You misunderstood my post >__<. I meant the GEISHA that the author interviewed got angry when the author wrote the novel. When he interviewed this certain Geisha, she does not want to be recognised. Yeah, he got all the info about Geisha and wrote that novel but changed some concepts... which made the Geisha angry.
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« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2006, 10:47:42 PM » |
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Actually, from what I read, Geishas don't sell their body. They sell their art, which is dancing or just being someone's companion... even serving tea. >__<
They're not really 'Asian prostitutes' as some people will put it bluntly. The media has got it somewhat wrong for that. Though 'sex' may be part of the deal, it isn't the main one. They're more famous for other things like the ones I mentioned.
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